Honda versus Suzuki 50hp 4 strokes--

M_114	I'm thinking of purchasing a new 50hp 4 stroke. any thoughts on suzuki versus Honda. The suzuki maybe cost about 200 bucks more. any advice, pros-cons would be appreciated M_114	2002-03-25
J.B. Cornwell	Howdy, M. Both are very good engines but the decider for me would be that the Suzi is EFI. EFI makes as big a difference on 4 stroke outboards as it does in cars. You might also consider the new Mercury EFI 60 4 stroke if a 60 is an option. Red sky at night. . . JB	2002-03-25
CAPTBLACKSMARINE	I AGREE WITH J.B. THE SUZUKI WOULD BE MY CHOICE OF THE TWO . BUT I WOULD ALSO SHOP DEALERS AND BE SURE I HAD A GOOD DEALER CLOSE BY FOR WHICH EVER ONE I CHOSE TO BUY .	2002-03-25
rtice	M_114, Do a seach on this message board on suzuki. There are few of us Suzuki owners that have had some problems.	2002-03-25
CAPTBLACKSMARINE	THERE MAY BE A FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD PROBLEMS BUT THERE ARE FAR MORE OF US WHO HAVE HAD EXCELLENT SERVICE OUT OF SUZUKI MOTORS. I HAVE RAN AND OWNED MANY SUZUKI'S AND HAVE HAD AND SEEN VERY FEW PROBLEMS FROM ANY OF THEM .	2002-03-25
J.B. Cornwell	Howdy, M_114. Those few problems that have raised such a stink have been with the DF70. I have a DF70 and love it. CaptBlacksMarine is correct. Though the problems that do occur make a lot of noise, they are still rare. I would not pass on a Suzi because of them. Red sky at night. . . JB	2002-03-26
rtice	Gentlemen, My problem is not the Suzuki engine, its what happened to me when my camshaft failed on my new 2001 DF70. Prior to this failure, I was just like the rest of you proud owners(preaching to whoever would listen). They are a very fine running engin	2002-03-26
enn	I would go for the Suzuki - EFI is an important feature. I have had Suzuki and Honda (1 of each) OB`s for years and have always been wery happy with them. Newer has any problems with my Suzuki OB`s - guess you have been unlucky with your dealer - but that dosent make Suzuki a bad engine.	2002-03-26
M_114	I'm going to go try out the suzuki 50 hp today. There seems to be a signif difference between the 60hp and 50hp size/weight-wise. One of the mechanics also suggested that the 50hp is the more "advanced" engine. Why is EFI important. I've been told so I don't have to choke the motor or squeeze the fuel line bulb which really never bothered me. I think I may miss the smell of the gas/oil fumes on the water. So why is EFI important. I'm suspicious its just something else that could break.	2002-03-26
Franki	EFI is good for the same reasons it is good in a car engine.. a Carb can only give an "educated guess" on how much fuel to deliver, fuel injection can take much more then the throttle position into account when deciding how much fuel/air is needed. Also, Fuel injection usually disperses the fuel into the air better then a carb. So you get better fuel ecconomy and better emissions... I'd say more power too, but HP is HP really, but with two engines, same size same block/heads ect, one fuel injected, and one carb, the efi motor will be better in pretty much every respect.. rgds frank	2002-03-26
Duckbay	M_114 Just to stir the pot, have you considered the 50Hp Yamaha 4 stroke, high thrust? David.	2002-03-27
M_114	I'm not sure I need a stirred pot right now. but the more information the better these things are spendy and buyers remorse could be severe. Whats the advantage of the Yamaha? and what is high thrust? I did take the suzuki out yesterday its a nice engine, quiet and had a very steady throttle increase also had a tilt feature which I liked.	2002-03-27
SeaDawg	M 114, the Yamaha is just another good engine, like all the other you are looking at. You should be fine with any of the 4-stokes in that range, as long as you get the features that you want. You only need high thrust (called bigfoot by mercury and mariner) if you have a really heavy boat and don't want to go fast. They have larger beefier lower units, and bigger diameter propellers.	2002-03-27
Duckbay	It seems we generally only talk about the issues or problems with a particular powerplant. In monitoring the forum, it seems if you don't hear anything, it's a good thing! I think you're about buy a very good product. Hopefully your Suzuki Rep is there, on the remote chance you have an issue. David.	2002-03-27
M_114	I did in fact look into the yamaha 50 hp but it didn't have fuel injection. I tested the suzuki with the fuel injection and maybe it was just my imagination but it seemed to have a "smoother" acceleration in that you didn't seem to hit spots where the engine sort of ran rougher til you either accelerated or de-accelerated. the mechanic who came for the ride said it was because carburators have one ideal speed and everything else is somewhat of a compromise. Also maybe later I can't either say yes or no to this but supposedly the fuel injection won't be so effected by altitude so I can fish on the columbia at about sea level or around 7000 ft above sea level in montana without the motor running rough. I'll be happy to test this theory and report back by september	2002-03-28

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